RICH talks about how he was on his friends Grace Daly VanDuren's Podcast and both talk about what they think happiness truly is. They talk about what brings people true happiness. But what Rich brings up is a lot of people not knowing that sometimes what we think will make us happy, makes us miserable. A lot of people get what they want in life a lot of time but dON'T understand all the complications that go along with it. The simplest things in life are what truly made them happiest over the years.