This week Liana Pavane and I discuss modern breakups more realistic than Che Diaz's "two-FaceTime" story. She shares how a phone call breakup drove her to break out of toxic dating patterns and explore a "selfship" before getting back out there. We discuss why you need to create your own closure, and concrete steps towards to recovering from a breakup. On the flip side, we outline how to execute good breakup etiquette in regards to timing, location, and depth of explanation - and reflect on our past experiences that served as examples of what NOT to do.

For more modern day ghost stories : @ghosts_ofdatespast

For IRL connections (and to cut down on your screen time) : ttylnyc.com

For all of Liana's dating insights and resources : lianapavane.com

To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak

For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com

For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected]

For a glimpse into my life when I'm not talking about dating : @lesliegnope