Seja talks to her guest Cash Savage about the new album So This is Love, the process of letting go of songs and connecting with one’s audience. Cash tells Seja about writing in interesting time signatures, the loss of identity during lockdown and some of her superstitions around live shows. They chat about the camaraderie in bands, games on tour and vocal heroes.

Cash’s strange show story was illustrated by Nick Finch.

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