Novel Dialogue

8.6 “I love a dialectical reader, and best is a dialectical reader who cries”


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Eighteenth century prison break artist and folk hero Jack Sheppard is among history’s most frequently adapted rogues: his exploits have inspired Daniel Defoe, John Gay, Bertolt Brecht, and most recently, Jordy Rosenberg, whose first novel, Confessions of the Fox (2018), rewrites Sheppard as a trans man and Sheppard’s partner Bess as a South Asian lascar and part of the resistance movement in the Fens. Rosenberg embeds the manuscript tracing their love story within a satirical frame narrative of a professor whose discovery of it gets him caught up in an absurd and increasingly alarming tussle with neoliberal academic bureaucracy and corporate malfeasance. Jordy is joined here by Annie McClanahan, a scholar of contemporary literature and culture who describes herself as an unruly interloper in the 18th century. 

Like Jordy’s novel, their conversation limns the 18th and 21st centuries, taking up 18th century historical concerns and the messy early history of the novel alongside other textual and vernacular forms, but also inviting us to rethink resistance and utopian possibility today through the lens of this earlier moment. Jordy and Annie leapfrog across centuries, reading the 17th century ballad “The Powtes Complaint” in relation to extractivism and environmental justice, theorizing the “riotous, anarchic, queer language of the dispossessed” that characterizes Confessions of the Fox as a kind of historically informed cognitive estrangement for the present, and considering the work theory does (and does not) do in literary works and in academic institutions.

Mentioned in this Episode

  • Peter Linebaugh, The London Hanged
  • John Bender, Imagining the Penitentiary
  • Dean Spade
  • Samuel Delany’s Return to Nevèrÿon series (Tales of NevèrÿonNeveryónaFlight from NevèrÿonReturn to Nevèrÿon)
  • Samuel Richardson’s Pamela
  • Sal Nicolazzo
  • Greta LaFleur
  • “The Powtes Complaint,” first printed in William Dugdale’s The history of imbanking and drayning of divers fenns and marshes, both in forein parts and in this kingdom, and of the improvements thereby extracted from records, manuscripts, and other authentick testimonies (1662)
  • Fred Moten
  • Saidiya Hartman
  • Jordy Rosenberg, “Gender Trouble on Mother’s Day” and “The Daddy Dialectic”
  • Amy De’Ath, “Hidden Abodes and Inner Bonds,” in After Marx, edited by Colleen Lye and Christopher Nealon
  • Aziz Yafi, “Digging Tunnels with Pens”
  • Jasbir Puar
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