In this episode, Brett and Perry are joined by Perry's son Seth Hughes to discuss their recent biking adventure to celebrate Seth's 14th birthday. The conversation delves into the tradition of father-son trips, the challenges and triumphs of pushing the limits on a mountain bike, and the importance of community and incremental learning in overcoming fear. Seth shares his experiences of progressing through different biking tracks, while Perry reflects on the joy of watching his son grow in skill and confidence. The episode also touches on broader themes of parenting, technology use, and the value of spending quality time outdoors.

The two books referenced in this episode are:

“The biggest lesson I learned from my dad is to support children even if they're doing something that is unorthodox.” — Tony Hawk

Music in this episode is from "Good Ol' Man" (©2022) by Drew Green and reproduced with permission from Drew Green.