Liz and Helen discuss "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man," along with the first match-up in their X-Files villains bracket: Robert Patrick Modell vs the Flukeman. Plus, writing advice, spy likelihoods, and the realization that CSM should just go to therapy for his daddy issues instead of assassinating so many people.

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