Seja talks to her guest Sam Bentley (The Paper Kites) about his first touring experiences, starting in punk bands and trying to be crazy on stage. Sam tells Seja about his dad, his spirituality and being inspired by gospel music. They chat about wanting to move people with music, going shows by themselves and the unique way the Paper Kites’ new album was written and recorded.

Sam’s strange show experience was illustrated by Ethan Jenkins (@e.e.jenkins).

All illustrations can be seen on Instagram @hearsejpodcast or on the HearSej Facebook page.