Lene talks about her annoyance that the book Nordic Secret is mentioned in connection with the Inner Development Goals. Because for her, education has absolutely nothing to do with goals. She is extremely concerned and sees the danger that the concept of the Inner Development Goals turns education into an autocratic system that abuses people. In an empathetic conversation, we explore why she is so alarmed and why it is important to her to draw attention to this with a lot of energy. So that the IDG community reflects on this point and becomes aware of it.

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Music by Scott Holmes