We have a conversation with designer and educator Cas Holman in this episode. Cas is the founder and principal designer at Heroes Will Rise, an independent toy company focusing on products designed in the spirit of invention and creativity. She is also full-time faculty at Rhode Island School of Design in the Industrial Design Department. Her work has recently been featured in the New Yorker, Dwell, and an episode of Abstract (season two) on Netflix.

••• More about Cas' work can be found at casholman.com and rigamajig.com.