Theo Jaffee Podcast

#9: Dwarkesh Patel - Podcasting, AI, Talent, and Fixing Government


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Dwarkesh Patel is the host of the Dwarkesh Podcast, where he interviews intellectuals, scientists, historians, economists, and founders about their big ideas. He does deep research and asks great questions. Past podcast guests include billionaire entrepreneur and investor Marc Andreessen, economist and polymath Tyler Cowen, and OpenAI Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever. Dwarkesh has been recommended by Jeff Bezos, Paul Graham, and me.

  • Dwarkesh Podcast (and transcripts): https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/podcast

  • Dwarkesh Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwarkeshPatel

  • Dwarkesh Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4JH4tybY1zX6e5hjCwU6gF

  • Dwarkesh Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381

  • Dwarkesh’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp

  • Dwarkesh’s Blog: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/s/writing

  • PODCAST LINKS:

    • Video Transcript: https://www.theojaffee.com/p/9-dwarkesh-patel

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1IJRtB8FP4Cnq8lWuuCdvW?si=eba62a72e6234efb

    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/theo-jaffee-podcast/id1699912677

    • RSS: https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/989123/s/75569/private/129f6344-c459-4581-a9da-dc331677c2f6.rss

    • Playlist of all episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVN8-zhbMh9YnOGVRT9m0xzqTNGD_sujj

    • My Twitter: https://x.com/theojaffee

    • My Substack: https://www.theojaffee.com

    • CHAPTERS:

      Intro (0:00)

      OpenAI drama (0:50)

      Learning methods (4:10)

      Growing the podcast (7:38)

      Improving the podcast (17:03)

      Contra Marc Andreessen on AI risk (24:18)

      How will AI affect podcasts? (26:31)

      AI alignment (32:08)

      Dwarkesh’s guests (38:04)

      Is Eliezer Yudkowsky right? (41:58)

      More on the Dwarkesh Podcast (46:01)

      Other great podcasts (50:06)

      Nanobots, foom, and doom (56:01)

      Great Twitter poasters (1:01:59)

      Rationalism and other factions (1:05:44)

      Why hasn’t Marxism died? (1:15:27)

      Where to allocate talent (1:18:51)

      Sam Bankman-Fried (1:22:22)

      Why is Elon Musk so successful? (1:29:07)

      How relevant is human talent with AGI soon? (1:35:07)

      Is government actually broken? (1:36:35)

      How should we fix Congress? (1:40:50)

      Dwarkesh’s favorite part of podcasting (1:46:46)

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