Host Makeba Garraway talks with her mother Kate and mother-in-law Phyllis about their educational histories, their experiences of educating their own children, and how they feel about their grandchildren being educated outside of school.

Listen in as they talk about:

The impact of the 11+ exam on their respective secondary school careers

Migrating from Jamaica to England in the 1950s

Supporting adopted children through the school system

Their reaction to our decision to home educate, and how it has changed over time

How having an autistic grandson has broadened their understanding of autism