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9 – Keeping it Simpler – Alcoholism Anonymous (Alc-A)
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Before getting all worked up about this book, please note this: The Alcoholism Anonymous program was inspired by A.A. We credit its success to Bill W., and the other founders of A.A. Alc-A is very similar to A.A., yet entirely different. Also, note that this program is not for everyone, just as A.A. isn’t and therapy isn’t. If you don’t like it, move on. We don’t want to become diluted as A.A. has become, and our program rules are designed to prevent that from happening. Many Alc-A members still attend A.A., and everyone in the program should support A.A. and its members. Our only goal is to inform the world of the true nature of success rates within the program and the dangers of the people. We want to help bring awareness to newcomers that A.A. is not the only option. It is a religion, and A.A. is absolutely 100%, by definition, a cult in many circles. If you don’t want to believe that, you need to start learning the actual definitions of words!
cult noun are relatively small groups of people with religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
religion noun the belief in and worship of superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods
superstition noun excessively credulous belief in and reverence for supernatural beings
schizophrenia noun (in general use) a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements
The reader of this text should know, (on cults) we have met many A.A. circles that are relatively small groups, which we and many others regard as strange and or sinister. And when A.A. and its members say, “Only God (higher power) can relieve us of our obsession to drink.” We ask, “Why couldn’t God (higher power) allow us to drink as average humans do?” One can pussyfoot around the topic, but the definitions are pretty dam clear. That belief in something that does not exist—no proof, at least—is precisely what schizophrenia and superstition are. It’s easy for a sane person to understand this, but as the saying goes, “You can’t convince a crazy person they are crazy.”
If you find yourself irritated by the above statement, that is fine. It is your choice to feel that way and your choice to believe something, or maybe it isn’t your choice at all... Anyways, we only wish to again, point out, that we are dealing with physical, chemical reactions bound in the realms of reality, and no superstitious jargon should ever be a substitute for hard science when it comes to serious medical issues. “Only God could relieve me of my toothache.” “No human dentist could have relieved us of our aching pain.” Ridiculous concepts thought up by primitive humans, brain damaged by excessive alcohol consumption. But! If it works for you, do it! For us, such ideas send us out the door more confused and troubled than when we went in. And the lunatics still in the rooms think we deserve the pain because we don’t bend to their sick, nearing mental illness, if not, outlooks on reality.
“Nothing makes me want to drink more than recovery programs.”
Founder of Alcoholism Anonymous
After nearly 20-years of researching Alcoholics Anonymous, our work has concluded that the program is more dangerous than helpful for numerous reasons. These reasons will be elaborated on within this chapter. Not that it should be considered all dangerous. We only wish to help separate the ones that will be in danger from attending the program. We never want to hear another member of A.A. say, “Mr. or Ms. Doe died of withdrawal this week because he or she didn’t follow the 12-steps and have a spiritual awakening, putting them right with God.” How dangerous and irresponsible it is to put that thought into an impressionable and desperate person’s mind. An idea that that is the only possible solution to remaining abstinent.
The supposed is that there is only one
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Before getting all worked up about this book, please note this: The Alcoholism Anonymous program was inspired by A.A. We credit its success to Bill W., and the other founders of A.A. Alc-A is very similar to A.A., yet entirely different. Also, note that this program is not for everyone, just as A.A. isn’t and therapy isn’t. If you don’t like it, move on. We don’t want to become diluted as A.A. has become, and our program rules are designed to prevent that from happening. Many Alc-A members still attend A.A., and everyone in the program should support A.A. and its members. Our only goal is to inform the world of the true nature of success rates within the program and the dangers of the people. We want to help bring awareness to newcomers that A.A. is not the only option. It is a religion, and A.A. is absolutely 100%, by definition, a cult in many circles. If you don’t want to believe that, you need to start learning the actual definitions of words!
cult noun are relatively small groups of people with religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
religion noun the belief in and worship of superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods
superstition noun excessively credulous belief in and reverence for supernatural beings
schizophrenia noun (in general use) a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements
The reader of this text should know, (on cults) we have met many A.A. circles that are relatively small groups, which we and many others regard as strange and or sinister. And when A.A. and its members say, “Only God (higher power) can relieve us of our obsession to drink.” We ask, “Why couldn’t God (higher power) allow us to drink as average humans do?” One can pussyfoot around the topic, but the definitions are pretty dam clear. That belief in something that does not exist—no proof, at least—is precisely what schizophrenia and superstition are. It’s easy for a sane person to understand this, but as the saying goes, “You can’t convince a crazy person they are crazy.”
If you find yourself irritated by the above statement, that is fine. It is your choice to feel that way and your choice to believe something, or maybe it isn’t your choice at all... Anyways, we only wish to again, point out, that we are dealing with physical, chemical reactions bound in the realms of reality, and no superstitious jargon should ever be a substitute for hard science when it comes to serious medical issues. “Only God could relieve me of my toothache.” “No human dentist could have relieved us of our aching pain.” Ridiculous concepts thought up by primitive humans, brain damaged by excessive alcohol consumption. But! If it works for you, do it! For us, such ideas send us out the door more confused and troubled than when we went in. And the lunatics still in the rooms think we deserve the pain because we don’t bend to their sick, nearing mental illness, if not, outlooks on reality.
“Nothing makes me want to drink more than recovery programs.”
Founder of Alcoholism Anonymous
After nearly 20-years of researching Alcoholics Anonymous, our work has concluded that the program is more dangerous than helpful for numerous reasons. These reasons will be elaborated on within this chapter. Not that it should be considered all dangerous. We only wish to help separate the ones that will be in danger from attending the program. We never want to hear another member of A.A. say, “Mr. or Ms. Doe died of withdrawal this week because he or she didn’t follow the 12-steps and have a spiritual awakening, putting them right with God.” How dangerous and irresponsible it is to put that thought into an impressionable and desperate person’s mind. An idea that that is the only possible solution to remaining abstinent.
The supposed is that there is only one