Former Irish Minister for Education Mary Hanafin has always lived an intensely political life. We spoke about what she has done since losing her Dáil seat in 2011, recent social change in Ireland, her role in Fianna Fáil, her relationship with Micheál Martin, and the need for recent youth activism to translate into more consistent and committed engagement with the established political system. I think it was a pleasant interview, and I enjoyed talking to my former local TD. She hopes to win election again in Dún Laoghaire in 2020.