“Money is not about how much you have in your bank account, but how you view yourself and the world around you.”

Those are the sage words of Leslie Mallman, a seasoned Financial Advisor and Money Healer. In this episode, she joins me for a candid and compassionate discussion on why money feels like such a loaded topic - and how to turn anxiety into agency.

We shift from the concept of financial health to financial fitness and explore the idea that your net worth isn't something to diagnose, but rather a state of being you can develop and improve. We then dig into the traps many of us face, from maxed‑out credit cards and lifestyle creep to doom‑scroll headlines that make normal market dips feel catastrophic. We also get real about advisors and incentives, discussing our own negative experiences working with people who we felt weren't fully aligned with our goals.

You’ll hear how to filter the noise and anchor your goals on what “enough” means for you. Because if you aren't prioritizing money in alignment with the rest of your life - your health, relationships, career, and personal fulfillment - what's the point of having a big bank account?

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In this episode:

• [0:45] Why I made this episode
• [4:48] Meet Leslie Mallman
• [13:07] What is money?
• [17:09] Financial health vs. financial fitness
• [21:24] Financial healing
• [28:55] What does a financial advisor do?
• [31:01] Negative experiences with advisors
• [39:01] What is "enough" and how it's changed over time
• [46:56] Common traps that affect financial well-being
• [52:23] Insights from Leslie's financial healing class
• [55:15] Power moves that changed our financial fitness
• [1:04:04] Advice to improve your relationship with money

References:

• Loud budgeting
• Recommended resources

Find Leslie:

• Financial Advising: fiveoceansadvisors.com
• Financial Healing: moneycoachleslie.com

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