Wowsers this is an episode where we cover at lot!

- we begin by talking again about suffering because we wanted to continue some thoughts we'd both been having about it.

- we talk about and define what the emotional load is for us.

- how we are leaders

- what we want that to look like.

- chiara's meltdown last weekend

- rational and irrational behaviours and thoughts from our kids

- being regulators...

Sooooooo much more.

This felt like a super useful, profound and uplifting conversation in the end.

Enjoy our friend therapy session!