This what it sounds like when you use a podcast to hang out with your friend who's been away for three weeks. We talk about everything except this album, including some hot takes on the Civil War (to be clear, I do know that Nevada fought for the Union), same sex marriage, and Incubus. Comedian Sam Bowden tries valiantly to educate host Ryan Sim about the history of the greatest third-tier American rock band, The Killers, but we mostly just get weird about anything and everything else. Highest Fallout Boy ratio of any episode so far.

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