Starting off with a small topic of what defines as a "Small Business", Chris and Melanie gradually moves into the topic around how reality stars are not treated with the same respect as movie stars (despite both being employees). They discuss how Piper O'Neill and Veronica Cristovao from My Kitchen Rules (MKR) have been affected by how the show's treatment of them. This opens a wider conversation about the employee entitlements and rights of reality stars.