This week, Joe Thomlinson and Chris Hamill join me on the podcast for what is meant to be a round-up episode, but quickly turns into yet another Arsenal conversation. Then we eventually get round to Man City, who have tried to cure their defensive woes by becoming boring. Has it worked? Is Pep done? Should the club try a non-bald manager? We answer basically none of these questions.

Then it's on to what we learned this week, which features Ajax pummelling Venlo and now regular segment Joe Apologises For His Previous Terrible Opinions.

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