We discussed a number of things including:

1. Anthony and Mike's corporate and entrepreneurial journeys

2. How Anthony started ABF and its collaborations with corporates

3. State of the podcasting market

4. Challenges and opportunities ahead

5. Future trends

Anthony is CEO and founder of ABF Creative, a Webby Award-winning podcast network and production company that bridges the gap between culture and media. A serial entrepreneur with a social mission, the former NPR producer leveraged 10-plus years in the tech industry to create a data-driven storytelling platform that serves multicultural audiences of all ages.

Under Frasier’s leadership, ABF has emerged as one of the leading podcast publishers of children’s audio content. Over 5m streams and downloads since its launch in 2019 speak to the platform’s breakthrough success in producing branded, original narrative, and live podcasts that resonate with highly engaged audiences. Their proprietary framework has earned the confidence of Fortune 500 brands and representation from ICM Partners, due to its pioneering use of applying machine learning and AI to make smarter content decisions.

Profiled on CNN Money as one of 8 minorities diversifying the tech scene, Frasier is respected for creatively utilizing tech to build real solutions for underserved communities. He notably sought to unlock access to entrepreneurship for the generation most affected by the digital divide as founder of the Phat Startup, which was groundbreaking in how it applied Lean Startup methodology to hip-hop culture. In addition to developing digital courses and resources, The Phat Startup brought together some of the most brilliant minds in tech for its popular guest speaker series and partnered with NYU to present the acclaimed Tech808 conference.

Prior to launching the Phat Startup, Frasier created a video game loyalty mobile app called Playd. He also built TheKoalition.com, a gaming site for urban youth that won the 2009 Black Weblog Award for best technology site or blog. A true connector, he also founded Brick City Tech, Newark, New Jersey’s first startup networking community.

Frasier’s extraordinary story of going from the streets of Newark to finding success in Silicon Valley has made him a sought-after speaker for audiences including the Congressional Black Caucus, SXSW and TEDx. He is the author of Don't Dumb Down Your Greatness: A Young Entrepreneur's Guide to Thinking mp; Being Great, a guidebook for young entrepreneurs of color. Frasier sits on the Board of Directors for the New York Tech Alliance and served as an Entrepreneur in Residence at Newark Venture Partners. His work has been featured in Deadline, Fast Company, BET, CNN Black In America, WIRED, Digiday and more.

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Mike is an Executive Producer at ABF Creative where he positions the incredible talent around him to succeed. While working at ABF Creative, Mike has produced shows like the Webby award winning African Folktales, The Adventures of Cairo, Into The Mix and Charm Words.

His passion for storytelling extends to his hobbies. In his own time he produces sports commentary podcast Bad Weather Fans, in which a Knicks fan and a Nets fan analyze the world of sports. Bad Weather Fans is now recognized as one of Apple's top basketball podcasts and has had on guests like NBA Hall Of Famer Tracy McGrady and NBA veteran Richard Jefferson.

While driving for Uber Eats, Mike also captured his daily adventures on the road for the podcast Mike Delivers. Mike is currently a professor of Podcast at Bergen Community College as well.