Douglas Light stopped by the podcast to talk about his new novel Where Night Stops, out February 13th from Rare Bird Books. This is a big "book talk" episode, and we also talk about pacing, cutting out all the bullshit, outlining vs. going with the flow, collaboration, dialogue, adapting his books for film, and getting shit-talked by Peter Fonda.

Side note: this is my favorite read of the year so far (I know, it's early, but I get excited about good books). Make sure you pre-order this one if you're a fan of Denis Johnson's Nobody Move, Joan Didion, or even my books (I feel like they're cut from the same cloth).