Gleaves Whitney is joined by Hank Meijer. Hank is the executive chairman of Meijer, Inc, a scholar-associate of the Hauenstein Center, and biographer. Hank, author of Arthur Vandenberg: The Man in the Middle of the American Century, joins Gleaves to discuss Frank Murphy, who was mayor of Detroit, governor of Michigan, US attorney general, and justice on the Supreme Court of the United States.