So for this week I decided to do this in two parts as the overall thing was around 2 hours. The concept is a bit like the 5 quotes episode we did a little while ago; introduce a quote from a prominent figure in the UFO topic and discuss what is meant by it. Where is the line between direct knowledge and speculation? We spend a lot of time analysing breadcrumbs from insiders who have been on the other side of that 'curtain of secrecy', in this two part episode we break down these comments and try to get to the bottom of what is meant. The audio clips played are from our friends at Engaging the Phenomenon and Calling all Beings, the links to the full interviews can be found below, aswell as a press conference where some of the Christopher Mellon clips were taken from. Huge thankyou for letting us play the clips on the show and I'd definitely recommend checking out the full interviews if you found the clips interesting. Engaging the Phenomenon interview with Jim Semivan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxtL-sBhe30Calling all Beings interview with Jim Semivan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uaYxeqsS0Conferencia de prensa con Christopher Mellon y Jaime Maussan en "The Ufology World Congress" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQMIDaX7etQyou can find me on twitter (Frank) @UFOthinkerDave - @dsmethurst66