Grant and Vince are in studio with the very awesome and always generous Su Na (AKA Alec Ness). Su Na is a musician, electronic artist and producer who is also a prolific educator, and he joins the show to discuss the value of “letting go” creatively, and when to hold on.

95 Letting go with Su Na

10,000 HOURS is an interview series about craft, creativity and putting in our time.


In his book Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell examined and popularized the theory that any given skill takes ten thousand hours to master. How accurate is that? More importantly, if there’s any truth to the theory, how does it change the way we look at doing work and putting in time? 

Brought to you by entrepreneur Grant Spanier and writer Vince Koci, 10,000 HOURS is a weekly discussion about the different ways people work hard to do what they love.

Joined by guests from around the world with diverse backgrounds— topics will touch on everything from entrepreneurship, creativity, productivity, personal philosophy, living your passion, and everything in-between.

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10,000 HOURS is an interview series about craft, creativity and putting in our time. In his book Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell examined and popularized the theory that any given skill takes ten thousand hours to master. How accurate is that? More importantly, if there’s any truth to the theory, how does it change the way we look at doing work and putting in time? Brought to you by entrepreneur Grant Spanier and writer Vince Koci, 10,000 HOURS is a weekly discussion about the different ways people work hard to do what they love. Joined by guests from around the world with diverse backgrounds— topics will touch on everything from entrepreneurship, creativity, productivity, personal philosophy, living your passion, and everything in-between.

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