I tēnei ata kei te Hōtaka Parakuihi: The Mayor is on the line chatting about Alert Levels, vaccines, transport and emissions, and water usage controversy in Sounding Off with Phil Goff; and later in the show Rachel is joined in studio by University of Auckland doctoral candidate Regan Duff about his working regarding how people and groups respond to crisis in Ready Steady Learn! Whakarongo mai! ​