In loving memory of Kahlua.

Our Broken River collaborator and good friend E Rathke joins us to talk about how all three of us were recently shot down in an open call to work with CD Projekt Red. What do you do with rejection? Is there a point to the effort even if it doesn't turn out how you'd hoped? We explore all this as well as chop it up a bit about Cyberpunk 2077 and some things we would like to see added in the sequel. We also talk a bit about the work of Stephen Graham Jones, whose opinions matter and whose don't, the pitch vs the product, writing filler but making it gourmet, and looking at art through beer goggles. For hours upon hours of bonus content, access to the Agitator Discord, serialized novels, and to support the show's endeavors into original films and online storytelling courses, go to patreon.com/agitator