Decide with Wayne and Jon if Chris is too smart for this podcast, or too fancy in his cookie-eating methodology. Even if you’re undecided, don’t worry, because you can still defeat Satan, even if you don’t know what he looks like.

Discussion Starters: Choice of scary movie villain, what does Satan look like, the Conjuring, teaching gothic horror, urea as a fertilizer, what is satanic, Spookley or Chris’ mind, salt for spice on pumpkin seeds, praying to Santa Muerte.