Both shows on deck are, at the surface, about deeply repressed married people. Forever is an Amazon Prime original, starring Maya Rudolph and Fred Armisen, and seems to tow the line between funny and darkly real. The Sinner just began its second season, and stars Jessica Biel, who was nominated for this very performance.

Of course, lots of chats about the most boring Emmys of all time. Also some talk about Bert & Ernie, the Superbowl Halftime show, Space Jam 2, and much much more! Tweet your thoughts to @ShowShowPodcast!