In this episode of The Nick Lugo Show, I interview prosocial borderline psychopath and neuroscientist Dr. James Fallon. In his 35-year career as a professor at University of California - Irvine, he studied the brains of psychopaths, rapists, murderers, and serial killers. He also studied the brains and behaviors of famous leaders such as JFK, FDR, Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, and Mother Theresa, noting similar traits. THESE LEADERS ARE PSYCHOPATHS TOO! Today, he shares his remarkable knowledge of the mind of a psychopathic leader, and how they rule the world.

Fallon is an expert in the study of psychopaths, especially with MRI technology. Remarkably, Fallon correctly identified 30 killers out of 70 subjects in a double-blind experiment simply by studying their brain scans. His TedX talk on psychopathy received over 3 million views. He has helped the FBI, CIA, and Department of Defense, along with the Pope.

He is the author of the book The Psychopath Inside: A Neuroscientist's Personal Journey into the Dark Side of the Brain(https://www.amazon.com/Psychopath-Inside-Neuroscientists-Personal-Journey/dp/1617230154/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1andkeywords=the+psychopath+insideandqid=1635217763andsr=8-1), which explores his journey into psychopathy. He is one of the most intelligent humans I've met, and also one of the most friendly. Yet, it is clear that he has a dark side, an intriguing turn worth exploring.

He explains how leadership and psychopathy are desperately intertwined, and that some of our favorite leaders had psychopathic traits.

Don't believe me? Here are famous leaders that were psychopaths/sociopaths:

Donald Trump

Nelson Mandela

Mother Theresa

JFK

Gandhi

FDR,

Teddy Roosevelt

Harry Potter (Yes, I said that. Watch the damn episode and find out for yourself)

Bill Clinton

Adolf Hitler

Hitler

Joseph Stalin

Ghengas Khan

Mao Zedong

Elizabeth Holmes

Elon Musk?

Bill Gates?

Jeff Bezos?

This episode also explains the psychology of psychopaths such as:

Ted Bundy

Jeffrey Dahmer

Charles Manson

Jack The Ripper