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This podcast was recorded live in Daytona beach and features some powerful insights and ideas that may be somewhat controversial and really vulnerable.  I got to hang out with Joe in Daytona beach where he's currently living but he was in Arkansas for most of his life then moved to NY then AZ and is now in Florida.

We talk about his moves and the impact Heremetic pursuit has had - the end of the episode gets DEEP.  I hope you'll all enjoy it as much as we did.  Learn the art of relaxation by downloading a free audio guide on Joe's website: https://joerupe.com

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