Nearly everyone in the public administration world says that the civil service system is far from perfect and needs to be fixed. The rules governing the system have not been updated in decades, leaving the federal government's workforce systems in the proverbial stone age. The bifurcated political landscape has not helped, with more elected officials proposing more so-called solutions that would cut, degrade or otherwise hamstring the professional civil service.

Jeffrey Neal is former chief human capital officer for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and is a Fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration. In this episode, you'll hear the second part of Neal's conversation with GovExec Daily about the reasons that modernization has been so slow going, how it can be accelerated and the Academy's role in moving modernization forward.

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