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A Call for Reform | Chris Ayoub and Nathan Apffel


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What’s shaking, everyone? Today, I’m diving into a topic that’s going to stir up some controversy, and I’m here for it. I’m sitting down with two incredible guests—Emmy-winning filmmaker Nathan Apffel and business expert Chris Ayoub. Together, they’re tackling one of the most under-the-radar but incredibly important issues—the business side of religion and the lack of transparency in religious institutions. We dig deep into how these institutions operate, the tax-free benefits, and why it’s time for a massive reform in how churches handle finances. If you’ve ever questioned where your donations are going or how religious nonprofits really function, you’re going to want to hear this.



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Nathan Apffel, an Emmy-winning filmmaker, and Chris Ayoub, a seasoned leader with military and business experience, are dedicated to exposing flaws in religious and nonprofit institutions through their upcoming docuseries, The Religion Business. Their work challenges the status quo, promotes transparency, and seeks community-driven solutions for meaningful reform, aiming to create a better world for future generations.

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