Today I talk with Karl, a 23 year old guy, who has been through both the Admiralty Interview Board (AIB) with the Royal Navy and the Officer Aircrew Selection Centre (OASC) for the Royal Air Force, completing both.

He wanted to fly and yesterday he called me with the results - did he get in?

Links to books we mention:

'Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World' - General Stanley McChrystal

'Extreme Ownership' - Jocko Willink and Leif Babin

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