In the second half of our conversation with Carl Wilkins, he discusses how Rwanda sought to implement justice after the '94 Genocide. He explains the limitations of traditional justice and introduces Rwanda's restorative model of justice. Carl shares the story of Maria and Filbert and describes the power of confession and repair in relational restoration. He also explores how the brain can form new pathways through personal decision-making.

Ultimately, Carl emphasizes the importance of taking responsibility for healing and moving beyond punitive justice. This conversation explores the themes of transformation, faith, love, forgiveness, and making others beautiful again. It highlights the journey of growth and the power of love to bring restoration.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:04 The Wrestling with Justice

03:05 The Rwandan Patriotic Front and Rebuilding

04:01 The Limitations of Traditional Justice

05:26 The Restorative Model of Justice

07:48 Community Courts in Rwanda

09:13 The Power of Confession and Repair

11:59 The Story of Maria and Filbert

19:26 Moving Beyond Punitive Justice

23:11 Rewiring the Brain and Transformative Justice

30:29 Forming New Pathways and Restorative Engagement

35:26 Taking Responsibility for Healing

35:58 Transformation and Growth

36:53 The Journey of Healing

37:23 Faith and God's Presence

38:21 Love as a Healing Force

39:12 The Messiness of Love

40:08 The Power of Forgiveness

41:05 Making Others Beautiful Again