In this episode, we chat with Kim Lundgren, the founder of Kim Lundgren Associates (KLA). Kim shares her journey from being an pioneer in municipal climate planning to driving an original GM EV1 as a city official in the early 2000s. We explore the role local governments play in decarbonizing our communities, the evolution of clean school bus programs, and why "right-sizing" municipal fleets is a low-hanging fruit for sustainability. Kim provides a grounded perspective on why we aren't just "saving the planet," but rather ensuring humanity can continue to thrive on it.

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