This was a very enjoyable chat with Suzanne and introduction into a segment I am coining "Wooed".  Suzanne is a deep-dive researcher that actually seeks out source material, such as white paper documents, patents, and other origin information and then moves forward with theories and speculations as to what is possible.   This first hour is a complete episode, however, we recorded a second hour that is archived on my Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/niish  Here are some links to mentions during our chat:
Upward electrical discharges;  https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo162
GMO tomato as edible COVID vaccine?;  https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/05/gmo-tomato-as-edible-covid-vaccine-mexican-scientists-work-to-make-it-a-reality/
SuspiciousObeservers Youtube video mentioned; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfupSpygqBY
Deborah Tavares's website; http://stopthecrime.net