Amber is also a podcasting clergywoman, and when she invited me to be on her podcast, I invited her to come be on mine, and the results were magical! Think of this episode as part 2 of a glorious 2 part conversation about how to integrate badass women in the life of the Church. You can find part 1, my interview on Amber’s podcast, here:

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