Friends, you're in for quite the treat! This episode is an interview with my dear friend and colleague, the Rev. Sam Kinsman. UCC clergy, University of Rochester Protestant Chaplain, and Sailor Moon enthusiast...Sam has so much wisdom about autism, queerness, culture, fandom, Spirit, Truth, identity, and loving your whole self.

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