Rob Cain goes on a rant about modern and ancient heroes. He discusses the heroes of literature and reviews the heroes

celebrated on TV as he was growing up. What is a modern hero? What is a classical one? Do heroes pay a price?

18:45 into the podcast a musical tribute is given to Khaled al-Asaad, a Syrian archaeologist and the head of antiquities at the ancient city of Palmyra, a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Khaled al-Asaad refused to reveal the location of ancient artifacts to the invaders. He placed the history of his city over his own life.