Matt and Tim start in agreement over their now-mutual love for the music of Kanye West, the importance of the Beach Boys' divine transcendence, and the artistic theology of Francis Schaeffer, but fall into an argument over the merits of pop music, the temptations of monetizing the Beautiful, and which Taylor Swift album will stand the test of time. Also, this episode comes with a fun drinking game: Take a shot every time Matt says the word, "phenomenal".