Leader and lecturer Doug Holladay's life path has taken him from degrees at top universities to Goldman Sachs, then on to the White House and serving at the US State Department as a special ambassador to South Africa. He has met a lot of people and seen a lot of leadership along the way. What he's witnessed is that, all too often, "successful" people end up experiencing emptiness, isolation and depression as the unintended fruits of their very achievements. His new book, and this conversation, focus on how we all might go about "Rethinking Success".