The Blue Jays' season has mercifully over. But as a crucial offseason begins, fans seem to have little interest in showing mercy to those responsible for putting the team together—especially as it seems increasingly clear that President Mark Shapiro and GM Ross Atkins will continue to lead the club into 2025.

This week Nick and Stoeten have a wide-ranging talk about the season that was, the vibes here in the aftermath, and what comes next.

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