Join Steve in his recent interview with physiotherapist Cliff Fowler, internationally recognized clinician, innovator, teacher, examiner and author. Cliff shares his memories of David Lamb and Erl Pettman, as Steve shares reflections from Diane Lee and her work with Cliff. 

Hear Cliff share his passion on muscle energy as he learned from Fred Mitchell, and the innovative conclusions drawn about his work with the pelvis, thoracic ring, AC joint and finally how he came up with the acclaimed Portland Test.