Sacred & Messy: Grace for Real Life

A conversation with Gay Bartholic


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Gay talks with Vicar Josh about her career as a nurse practitioner and crisis therapist. Her faith has grown through the years and helped her learn to determine what she can and cannot change. There are just times when she says "I think God might have it."

She also tells a story about how her faith helped her support women who were having their parental rights terminated and their children placed into foster care.


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Sacred & Messy: Grace for Real LifeBy Immanuel Lutheran Church