In this episode, Joey chats with John Fisher, acclaimed author and law firm owner, about leveraging books as a powerful branding tool. John shares how his three books, including The Power of a System, have positioned him as an industry leader and attracted valuable referrals and speaking opportunities.

He stresses that not every lawyer needs a book—success comes from focusing on your passions, whether writing, podcasting, or another medium. John also highlights the importance of genuine relationship-building through newsletters, personalized gifts, and consistent outreach. For those inspired to write, John offers tips on crafting a masterpiece that can transform a legal career.