When promoting Pay or Die in 1960, Ernest Borgnine often spoke about his decision to turn down the role of Al Capone, saying, “I’ve played plenty of villains in my day, but I could never portray a real-life person who I knew had done so much evil and caused so many people tragedy.”

How does actor and director John Turturro walk that line between authenticity and stereotype? 

Find out in our interview, where we explore everything from Pay or Die to The Sopranos—and a lot of family and career history in between!