In this episode of Signposts, I am joined by my close friend and colleague, Phillip Bethancourt, the new pastor of Central Church in Bryan, Texas and former Executive Vice President of the ERLC. In this conversation we talk about college ministry, new challenges that college students face, and the opportunities that the church has to address the core Christian issues of kingdom and identity.  

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A Conversation with Phillip Bethancourt

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What does it mean that all life matters to God?
That’s the question that Russell Moore and his guests—musician and producer Charlie Peacock and writer Andi Ashworth—consider on this episode of The Russell Moore Show. The couple cofounded Art House America together and approach the conversation as artists and makers, exploring what it looks like to lead with empathy and love of neighbor. They talk about what it looks like to create as though the world is watching, how to model the character of Jesus, and the difference between being a jerk and being bold.
Their conversation covers Peacock and Ashworth’s new book, Why Everything That Doesn't Matter, Matters So Much, and why hospitality is essential to Christian life. They talk about art, music, and how Jesus draws us to himself.
Tune in for an episode that testifies to God’s faithfulness to weave our stories into the greatest story of all.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:


Why Everything That Doesn't Matter, Matters So Much: The Way of Love in a World of Hurt by Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth

Francis and Edith Schaeffer

John Coltrane

Flannery O’Connor

Douglas McKelvey

Calvin University

Steve Taylor

Covenant Seminary

L’Abri


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All Life Is Hospitality with Charlie Peacock + Andi Ashworth

Novelist and short story writer Flannery O’Connor once said her life was too boring for a biographer—all she did was write and feed chickens. And yet, nearly 100 years after she was born, O’Connor’s life and faith are explored in Wildcat, a new film from actor, writer, and director Ethan Hawke of Training Day, First Reformed, and Dead Poets Society fame.
On this episode of The Russell Moore Show, Hawke and Moore discuss what compelled Hawke to cowrite Wildcat with Shelby Gaines. They talk about how O’Connor’s work connected Hawke to his mother and, later, to his daughter Maya, who plays O’Connor in the film.
Moore and Hawke explore O’Connor’s forcefulness and faith. They discuss the joys and challenges of working with family, how audiences are engaging with the religious elements in Wildcat, and Hawke's attraction to exploring issues of faith in art. And they talk about the meaning of creative work, institutions, and relationships in a fraught era.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:

Wildcat

Ethan Hawke

Maya Hawke

Shelby Gaines

"‘Wildcat’ Is as Unsettling as Flannery O’Connor Would Have Wanted"


The Violent Bear It Away by Flannery O’Connor


A Good Man Is Hard to Find by Flannery O’Connor

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

First Reformed

The Good Lord Bird


Flannery O’Connor’s Why Do the Heathen Rage?: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at a Work in Progress by Jessica Hooten Wilson

“A South Without Myths” by Alice Walker

“Why did Flannery O’Connor detest ‘Gone with the Wind’?


”Richard RohrWatership Down: The Graphic Novel by Richard Adams, adapted and illustrated by James Sturm and Joe Sutphin


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Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton
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Ethan Hawke on Flannery O'Connor's Christian Imagination

What does it mean to be a “practicing Christian”? That’s the question that Russell Moore and his guest, author John Mark Comer, consider on this episode of The Russell Moore Show.
The two discuss Comer’s new book, Practicing the Way, which welcomes people into spiritual formation through ancient practices. They talk about discerning God’s will for our lives, how Comer decided to step away from his role as lead pastor of a church he planted, and what it looks like to invite people into discipleship. Comer shares how he met Jesus, what it’s like to talk about God on the West Coast, and why so many people no longer resonate with American church services. They explore how churches can cultivate richer discipleship, the power of deep friendships, and the practice of contemplative prayer.
Tune in for an episode that is replenishing, full of guidance, and sheds light on why being an apprentice to Jesus is less like learning chemistry and more like learning jujitsu.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:

John Mark Comer


Practicing the Way: Be with Jesus. Become like him. Do as he did. by John Mark Comer


The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: How to Stay Emotionally Healthy and Spiritually Alive in the Chaos of the Modern World by John Mark Comer

Billy Graham Crusades

Martin Luther

John Calvin


Where Heaven and Earth Meet: A Jesus-Centered Spirituality for Today by N. T. Wright


The Critical Journey: Stages in the Life of Faith, Second Edition by Janet O. Hagberg and Robert A. Guelich


Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community (Revised and Updated) by Robert D. Putnam


Friends: Understanding the Power of our Most Important Relationships by Robin Dunbar


When the Church Was a Family: Recapturing Jesus’ Vision for Authentic Christian Community by Joseph H. Hellerman


Life Together: The Classic Exploration of Christian in Community by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Marjorie Thompson

Mark Scandrette

Eugene Peterson


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Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton
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John Mark Comer’s Call to Practice, Not Performance

Confusion and anxiety. Narcissistic tendencies. Spiritual abuses. As the host of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, CT’s director of media Mike Cosper explored how these themes can wreak havoc in a church. Now, he’s sharing his own experiences with harm and healing in church life through his latest book, Land of My Sojourn: The Landscape of a Faith Lost and Found.
On this episode of The Russell Moore Show, Moore hosts Cosper for a discussion of hurt and hope. They talk about Cosper’s work in church ministry, in his book, and while hosting the podcast The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. Their conversation covers church polity, planting, and pastoring. Moore and Cosper talk about the importance of humility in an era of narcissistic spiritual leaders and discuss the importance of wisdom and suffering in tempering idealism.
Cosper and Moore talk about reconciling stories of hospitality and kindness about figures like Mark Driscoll with the damage and trauma they’ve inflicted on others. They respond to the critique that The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill has made pastoring more difficult and encourage listeners to consider the importance of telling the truth even—perhaps especially—when the truth is hard to accept.
Tune in for a discussion that is honest about the harm some churches have caused and hopeful about the church as a place of healing.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:

The Bulletin


Land of My Sojourn: The Landscape of a Faith Lost and Found by Mike Cosper

The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

William Carey

“Jon Hamm on the Evolution of Don Draper on 'Mad Men’”

Acts 29

“Land of My Sojourn” by Rich Mullins


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Video producer: Abby Egan
Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton
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Mike Cosper on Church Hurt and Church Hope

"God is never going to betray you—even if the church does.”
So says Nancy French, best-selling author and investigative journalist, on this episode of The Russell Moore Show. French, who is known for her groundbreaking reporting on abuse at one of America’s largest Christian camps, joins Moore to discuss her new memoir, Ghosted.
French talks about growing up in the Bible Belt, where she was sexually abused as a child by her Vacation Bible School teacher. She and Moore discuss the importance of righteous responses to people who have been harmed, the ways institutions too often cover up abuse, and how all of this shows up in partisan politics.
Their conversation highlights the power of love—specifically in the case of Nancy’s marriage to David French—in healing from trauma. Moore and French also talk about French’s experiences ghostwriting for high-profile families such as the Palins and the Romneys. They talk about shifts in political culture, the state of racism in America, and what it’s like to be part of a church family that is primarily made up of people outside of one’s ethnic culture. Their conversation also touches on adoption, online discourse, and the incredible work that God can do through personal relationships.

Resources mentioned in this episode include:

Nancy French

David French


Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French

Joan Didion


Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis by J. D. Vance

Flannery O’Connor

Frederick Buechner

“They Aren’t Who You Think They Are” by David French and Nancy French

“What it’s like to experience the 2016 election as both a conservative and a sex abuse survivor” by Nancy French

Curtis Chang

“The Four Horsemen: Contempt” (The Gottman Institute)

The After Party


Do you have a question for Russell Moore? Send it to questions@russellmoore.com.
Special offer for listeners: 
Russell Moore will join friends David French and Curtis Chang in Washington, DC, for The After Party LIVE! on April 19. As a faithful listener to the podcast, we’d love for you to join us and use this $20 off offer just for listeners! The After Party is a free six-part video curriculum designed for people and pastors alike, and offers “a better way” for Christians to engage in politics. Learn more and buy tickets here—we’ve saved a seat for you!
Click here for a trial membership at Christianity Today.
“The Russell Moore Show” is a production of Christianity Today
Executive Producers: Erik Petrik, Russell Moore, and Mike Cosper
Host: Russell Moore
Producer: Ashley Hales
Associate Producers: Abby Perry and McKenzie Hill
Director of Operations for CT Media: Matt Stevens
Audio engineering by Dan Phelps
Video producer: Abby Egan
Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton
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A Conversation with Phillip Bethancourt

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