In this episode I am overlooking Smith Rocks in Central Oregon as I chat with Mike Tavares in his home office in Salt Lake City, UT.

Mike is one of those river SUP paddlers who has helped define the sport, both river surfing and downriver running.

When I give pointers to people getting into SUP surfing rivers, I suggest that they be like MIKE T! Enter the wave on your toe side. This requires an ambidextrous stance which requires training and effort. But all things worthwhile requires those things, right?

Enjoy the conversation!

Find more about Mike at his site: www.rivershred.com