Kale discusses a recent Substack in which Ross articulates the dilemmas facing Christian's in light of our current cultural exhaustions, what Ross works out in more detail with his latest book The Decadent Society. Rod joins Kale to continue the conversation and they talk about post-Obergfell, the Integralist response, and pessimism regarding where we stand.   Ross's The Decadent Society: The Decadent Society: How We Became the Victims of Our Own Success: Douthat, Ross: 9781476785240: Amazon.com: Books   Charles Taylor The Secular Age: A Secular Age: Taylor, Charles: 9780674986916: Amazon.com: Books   Ross's Substack on Christian Cul-de-sacs: Reactions (substack.com)   Rod's post on Discord Discord Servers: Woke Friends Consider Her A Leper | The American Conservative   Rod's response to Ross's Substack: Cosmos & Chickadee | The American Conservative   Rod's Sex After Christianity (a MUST read): Sex After Christianity | The American Conservative