Author and friend, Wayne Jacobsen, joins Roger and Jeff for a wonderful conversation. We talk about church life with or without a virus. Wayne shares his amazing experience of ending up largely outside the institution church many years ago and then discovering that God was far different than he had realized. We talk about what it is to live in the affection of our Heavenly Father and then to share that incredible love with others day to day with or without an organized congregation. 

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