In this episode of ConvHERsations, Kristie sits down with Ben Wolf, founder of Wolf’s Edge Integrators and author of Fractional Leadership, for a powerful discussion on what it really means to be an Integrator or second-in-command leader.

Ben shares why the role of an Integrator goes far beyond running meetings or executing orders—and why understanding the type of Integrator you need is essential for true business growth. From unpacking the differences between operational, conductor, and executive-level Integrators to introducing the MOAA (Mother of All Assessments), Ben brings clarity to a misunderstood role that’s critical to scale.

You’ll also hear insights on how Integrators can push back respectfully, learn to “speak visionary,” and make decisions that align with long-term goals—not just today’s shiny object.

Whether you're a Visionary founder looking to find the right right-hand leader or an Integrator seeking to grow into your next level, this episode is packed with insights to empower and inspire.